Simon

Cumbria

IT

John Hall wrote : "And why would go to sea in a sieve and start patching the holes why not just take a boat"

Great analogy !

"... the point I'm getting at is why rely on a Microsoft to secure you network when you got Cisco, 3Com, Netgear, McAfee and Nokia that can do the job."

But then you spoil it ! Why buy a sieve and then buy a cover (from a third party) to block the holes when you could go out and buy a real boat that starts out by being approximately water-tight ? OK, a bit of chewing gum might be required to plug the odd leak, but it's better than starting with something built using construction techniques that the rest of the world avoids because everyone else has known for decades that the end result is a leaky boat !

Ignore the crap that MS keep coming up with, the fundamental way in which their products are designed and built is almost guaranteed to produce the sort of vulnerabilities we keep seeing. Nothing short of a complete about face on their methodologies will change that - and the result won't be Windows compatible !